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"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-) 01/27/2018 at 20:46 • Filed to: None

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So I test drove that S40 T5 today. The only issue it had, was when turning and accelerating at the same time, it made a popping noise. Off they cuff do y’all have any idea what it could’ve been? It was just one loud pop, so I don’t think it was a bushing or anything.

Also, how long can the turbo be expected to last on these? Because the car has 250,000 on it. But it’s a one owner and the guy’s done a lot of work on (he did the timing belt himself, had the old one and the box the new on came in as proof.)

It’s a 2006 btw

E90M3 > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 20:48

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Also, how long can the turbo be expected to last on these? Because the car has 250,000 on it.

A friend had a 2002 S60 with ~120k on it and the turbo was done for.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > E90M3 01/27/2018 at 20:49

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Hmm, I guess it’s a matter of maintenance or bad luck. This guy said he never had any issue with it.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > E90M3 01/27/2018 at 20:49

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He did say it was mostly highway miles on it. If that’s the case maybe it’s easier on the turbo since it wouldn’t be on boost.

E90M3 > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 20:50

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I think it all depends, there really isn’t much maintenance you can do to a turbo; apart from changing the oil.

wafflesnfalafel > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 20:52

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loud pop or pops when turning can frequently be CV joints - maybe take a look a the boots

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > wafflesnfalafel 01/27/2018 at 20:57

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Ok. He said the boots where torn and he replaced just the boots recently, so it’d make since if it’s the axles. Although at least personally, I’ve never heard CV joints pop like that unless they’d already been making other noises for a while.

E90M3 > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 21:03

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Didn’t see this earlier.

I’m not sure to be honest, I’m pretty sure the turbo is spinning at some level, even at highway speeds.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > E90M3 01/27/2018 at 21:08

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It would, but it wouldn’t be spinning as fast and the pressure wouldn’t be as high, so less wear.

E90M3 > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 21:10

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I mean, it might still be spinning in excess of 50k RPM. The pressure isn’t the issue, it’s how much it spins.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 21:11

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Well he’s trying to sell you a car. Of course he’s going to say he’s never had an issue. He also says he changed the timing belt himself, and maybe he did, but a pile of old parts is not proof. Also said he just changed the boots, yet the front suspension is popping...

I don’t mean to sound cynical but... Even the few good cars I’ve bought, the seller has always been not upfront about something.

bobbyblue > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 21:36

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Hmm. Try this: turn the wheel all the way left or right, and drive forward and backwards, then repeat for the other side. If you hear popping or clicking then it is either the CV joint or the hub. And you don’t want it to be a worn hub. Ask him if he had the front end aligned after he replaced the drive shafts. I would look to see if the drive shafts are new, first. Look to see if the lower strut bolts have been disturbed. They can be seen with the wheel turned all the way to one side.

Something else that will cause a loud pop is the Strut assembly shifting at the upper mount. Or maybe the lower strut bolts are not tight and the strut is shifting at the bottom. IIRC, that is a 13mm for the upper mount and an 18 and 17 for the lower. If the upper mount rubber is cracked - that will make a popping noise - then it is better to replace the whole assembly rather than the just the mount. I did both sides at an hour.

As a duh, are the lug bolts tight?

And ask him about that timing belt replacement allowance on the sale price.

LongbowMkII > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 21:47

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check tie rods. if you can put the front on jackstands, give the wheels a good shove front and back and see if there’s any play.

bobbyblue > bobbyblue 01/27/2018 at 21:50

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sorry I misread your post about the belt already being done. But still look at the belt to make sure it is new. Have the seller remove the plastic belt cover for you. The turbo will blow blue smoke on deceleration under load, if its seals are going out. Pull the shift level to you to engage manual shifting, then accelerate and take your foot off the gas - if you see smoke, then the turbo is going. Also look for oil in the coolant- if the seals go in the turbo, the turbo will let oil get into the cooling system. Ask the guy what oil he put in and how often he changed it.

Speaking of oil, Volvos use a canister oil filter. And the plastic can isn’t a standard size and it’s not easy to get access to.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/27/2018 at 22:07

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I have heard cv joints make loud popping noises. If the boots get torn, they’re left that way and crap gets in the joint, it can definitely get dried out and prematurely worn. It probably needs new cv joints on both sides. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a $1000 job or more.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > E90M3 01/27/2018 at 22:13

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More pressure means more heat. More heat means accelerated wear.

E90M3 > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/27/2018 at 22:39

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Eh, I used to work with high pressure (10,000+ psi) so 15 psi vs 45 pis ain’t shit.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > bobbyblue 01/27/2018 at 22:50

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Yeah, he showed me the deal with the oil filter. I do the CV and shock check as well as the coolant and watch the exhaust on deaccleration.

Dogsatemypants > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/28/2018 at 01:39

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Not the same model, but my 05 xc70 makes that noise occasionally. My passenger strut bushing is toast, so when the damper compensates for a big bump it kinda shifts and makes a whump/pop noise. Check all the rubber, possibly one of the bigger wear items other than brake pads. Motor mount, trans mount, strut and control arm bushings are all soft stuff for a comfy ride, but it breaks down. Ipd makes composite bushings (rubber with poly insert) which will offer a better compromise between durability and ride comfort with a bit of added stiffness for racecar.

Turbo is durable, plastic piping is not.

Dogsatemypants > bobbyblue 01/28/2018 at 01:48

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It isnt as bad as a fiat or a mini but yeah, it isn’t the most fun spot for a filter.

Sovande > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/28/2018 at 05:06

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The K04 is a stout unit. Mine has 130k and is fine. 250k does not surprise me. What is the asking price? Axles aren’t cheap, and cheap axles for these cars aren’t good. It’s a simple job to replace them, however.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Sovande 01/28/2018 at 18:41

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$2,500

Sovande > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/28/2018 at 20:01

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Quick CL search around me gets you a 2006 with half that mileage for $4,000 asking price. Offer him $1700 to cover the cost of the axles, or drop $200 on a ppi.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Sovande 01/28/2018 at 22:40

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I’ll probably do something like that (maybe only go down to $2,000) I just looked it up and it looks like the easiest CV axle replacement ever. The axle bolt is only torqued to 25 ft/lbs and the passenger side one (He claims the noise came from his side) fits into a bearing and apparently slides out really easy.

Since it’s a Texas car and doesn’t have any rust, it should be a pretty smooth job.

Also apparently on the autos you don’t have to worry about ATF draining out when you do it.

Sovande > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/29/2018 at 05:24

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The Volvo axles, which I highly recommend, are expensive as shit. Like $600 a side. You can get cheaper axles and then you will have vibration from those cheap axles. Just FYI. I wouldn’t worry about offending the guy, worst he can do is say no to a low offer. If $2500 was as screaming deal the car would already be sold.